Constanze Mager is zoologist and works at Royal Burgers’ Zoo since 2011. As the Manager Conservation, Research and Education, she is busy with policy development as well as in the zoo with engaging public. She strongly believes in the educational power that zoos can have, but we do have to do our utmost best to create a connection between our often nature-alienated visitors and the living world. Reptiles and amphibian are an important, yet often a bit forgotten group in zoo conservation education and in in situ conservation efforts. Lets shine a light on these groups!